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A Discussion on the film, "Titanic"

Hosted by Dramatica Online Instructor SANDY STONE

[NOTE: The following is a correspondence from the Dramatica Online course led by Sandy Stone.]

Hi Everyone,

Well, a lot has happened with regard to the movie "Titanic" since I first proposed this optional assignment back in January. It sat atop the box office for an unprecedented 15 weeks, becoming the highest-grossing film in the history of the world, and it garnered 11 Oscars--tying "Ben Hur" for the most ever--including Best Picture, which resulted in a new catch-phrase being entered into our culture: "I'm King of the World! Woo-woo!"

(As of the week this document was completed, "Titanic" was still in the Top 10 on the box office chart after 5 months of release, having grossed $577 million domestically. It's made over a billion internationally.)

It has also been in the middle of an interesting controversy involving certain newspaper critics and other naysayers vs. James Cameron and his legions of fans regarding the quality of the script. (Even on Screenplay System's own Dramatica website, an expert in the theory denounces the movie's script as "unseaworthy" ... a review and analysis which, by the way, I do not agree with.)

I find it strange that Mr. Cameron has found himself so much on the defensive. It must be a backlash--a sentiment that anything or anyone so hugely successful MUST be overrated. (But come on, why spend so much time bashing HIM while Hollywood continues to throw obscene amounts of money at much more dubious scripts?) Is it possible that Cameron did EVERYTHING right in making this movie, EXCEPT for the story?

Of course, we are here to discuss this movie in terms of Dramatica, and we are here to render opinions, not pass judgment in favor or against. But in order to analyze such a work, a consensus has to be reached on the question, Does the story work? Is there a functional, identifiable storyform, and if so, what is it?

Huge box office success, as we've seen in recent history, does not necessarily mean there's a functional storyform at the center of a movie -- witness "Men In Black", "The Lost World", "Independence Day", etc., etc. (I haven't seen "Godzilla" yet, but I bet it fits in that category too). Even a sweep of the Oscars doesn't guarantee a properly storyformed movie. But when you've got both commercial AND critical success, with people of all ages of both genders going back again and again, something's going on.

My contention is, that "Titanic" is indeed a well-formulated story with a structurally sound (even "seaworthy") storyform ... you just have to look at it the right way! True, maybe the dialog is not as subtle and refined as some may prefer, but that's not what Cameron was going for -- as he wrote to the L.A. Times, this is a movie that "wears its heart on its sleeve." If you take the movie for what it is, putting aside personal tastes and biases that could skew your analysis, everything just might fall into place.

Of course, that's only my opinion.

Before I go on and on about what I think, I want to share the contributions of those students who rendered their own opinions about the storyform of "Titanic". But before I even do that, let me remind you of what the assignment was about. The original message is as follows:


Hello Class,

I'd like to propose an optional assignment for anyone who wishes to participate. I've just seen "Titanic", and it reminds me of the discussion we had recently about the nature of archetypal characters in a Mind domain Objective Story (my e-mail dated 12/17/97).

If you've seen or are about to see "Titanic", I'd like to hear your thoughts about the following issues:

1. The Objective Story Domain & Goal. Obviously I've tipped my hand already that I think the OS Domain is in "Mind", so if you agree, please illustrate the OS throughline in terms of "Mind". If you disagree, make an argument for whichever Domain you think the Objective Story is in (Universe, Physics or Psychology), and describe the throughline in those terms.

Also, try to determine the Objective Story Concern (e.g., Subconscious, Learning, Past, Being, etc.)--making sure it's consistent with your Domain choice--then illustrate the Objective Story Goal in terms of that Concern.

2. Objective Characters. Are the characters Archetypal, or Complex? Or a mixture of both? Whom do you see as the Protagonist (or IS there an archetypal Protagonist, or is there more than one?), and how would you define that person's (or persons') goal? (The Protagonist's goal is the same as the OS Goal above, but emphasizing the terms "Pursue" and "Consider".)

How would you assign all the Motivation elements (of which there are 16) among the characters? (There may be overlaps and hand-offs, so some things could be confusing--just make the assignments that seem most apparent to you.)

3. Storyform. If you have specific thoughts about what the storyform is for "Titanic", or even just PARTS of the storyform (MC Domain, OS Problem, etc.), please share them.

Remember, there are no right or wrong answers, only opinions. I'll give you mine after you give me yours. And by way, like your questions but unlike your homework, I'll be sharing what you write for this assignment with the entire class.

Oh, and...this will not affect your grade. <:)

Sandy

P.S. Let me clarify something: The movie "Titanic" is bookended by a "mini-story" where Brock (Bill Paxton) serves as the Main Character and the elderly Rose is the Obstacle Character. It has its own separate storyform, so let's disregard that part of the movie in our discussion. Let's stick to the story that involves the youthful Rose (Kate Winslet).


Okay, here we go. Marios C. of the U.K. contributes the following:

 

"Objective Story Domain - Mind:

It's obviously about the rigid manners of the era and the fixed attitudes regarding class and social status. There's also the fixed opinion that the Titanic itself is unsinkable.

I would say Rose is the Protagonist (as well as the Main Character) and her goal is to break free from the enslavement and conditioning of her family and class. This 'instinctive response' to follow Jack, rather than go along with the wedding as planned, is what causes the problems for the other characters (Concern/Goal the Preconscious?).

We see her rebelling against the way she is supposed to behave (or respond). She smokes a cigarette at the dinner table despite her mother's protests; she joins Jack for a party in the lower decks; allows him to draw her in the nude etc. We see Rose's sadness as she watches a young child being taught table manners (being conditioned to act in a certain way from an early age?)

Jack is her Obstacle Character, as he's the one encouraging her to follow her heart/instincts rather than the expected ways of behaving. She can't answer Jack when he asks her whether she loves Cal; he teaches her how to spit; At the party in the lower decks, when she tells Jack she can't dance, Jack tells her "don't think". Even while dying in the icy waters, Jack is urging her into living.

Later in the film, we see how she is adopting this new paradigm (of using her instinctive responses). When Jack asks her how she knew that he hadn't stolen the diamond, she replies: "I didn't. I realised I already knew". In another scene, she decides to leave Cal and go with Jack once they reach America:

Rose: "I'm getting off with you"

Jack: "that's crazy"

Rose: "It doesn't make sense. That's why I trust it".

Also there's the scene when her instincts tell her that Cal is lying abouthis 'arrangement' and she gets off the lifeboat.

Here are some thoughts on the other Objective Characters:

Molly Brown (Kathy Bates) - Support.

Molly is seen supporting both Jack and Rose. She supports Rose when Cal orders dinner for her ("are you going to cut her meat for her as well?"); she supports Jack with dressing for dinner; proper use of cutlery; points out the spit on his chin; commends Rose's rescue ("you sound like a good man to have around in a tight spot"). Later, she supports the idea of the lifeboat going back for more survivors.

Thomas Andrews/ship's architect (Victor Garber) - Guardian (Conscience/Help)

He tells Rose about the lack of lifeboats early on in the story; he later warns her that the ship will sink in an hour and also tells her where Jack is being held captive. He is seen helping passengers with life-jackets and is concerned when the boat's aren't being filled up to their fullcapacity).

Cal Hockley (Billy Zane) - Control/Temptation

To him Rose is just another possession to be controlled ("get you hands off MY fiance"). He chooses diner for her and tries to tempt her with the diamond (later he tries to buy his way onto a lifeboat).

Spicer Lovejoy (David Warner) - Hinder

He stops Jack entering the dining hall to speak to Rose; plants the diamond on him; handcuffs him etc.

Rose's Mother - Oppose/Reconsider/Avoid

She oppose Rose seeing Jack and tries to make her reconsider; she's trying to avoid bankruptcy "now that all the money is gone".

As for Rose's resolve, she is a CHANGE Main Character. She starts off enslaved by her class and in a loveless relationship and ends by renouncing her class (taking the name of Dawson), and as the photographs show, going on to live a happy life.

Phew! As always I look forward to your response. This has been a fun exercise even though I'm sure I'm way off the mark with a lot of what I've written.

Many thanks

Marios."


SS: Thank YOU, Marios. Very good analysis, and very thorough. I see you're leaning toward Preconscious as the Objective Story Concern/Story Goal, but are not certain of it. Also, you seem to be describing Jack's impact as Obstacle Character in terms of Physics, without specifically saying so ("Jack tells her 'don't think'").

One further note: I see that you identify Rose as the Protagonist, but I notice that you don't have Jack Dawson listed anywhere among the Objective Characters. Remember that the Obstacle Character will always fulfill a role in Objective Story. What could that be in Jack's case? Hmm, what could that be...

 


Kay P., also of England, posits:

 

"THE TITANIC

Objective Story Domain - I believe is Mind. There is a fixed attitude within all the objective characters that the Titanic cannot sink. It dictates their attitudes and reactions. When the premise is discovered to be false (something the audience already know) then this gives rise to the climax of panic.

Putting this through the software I find the following:-

The Objective Story Goal is the subconscious - this I take to be Rose's desire (I think she is the Protagonist) to break free of her restrictions. (We see her watch the little girl at table with her mother being carefully controlled.) This Rose achieves so the outcome is Good for her.

The Objective Story Concern is also the Subconscious - and the link between all the objective characters is their desire to survive (I think). Some fight to do so, some can't face it without loved ones, some give up etc.

 

Looking at the other Domains:

The Main Character Domain (I take this to be Rose) is Physics - doing things. Rose tries to throw herself off the ship, she goes down below into the hold with Jack, she poses for him in the nude - she seems to lead by doing things.

The Obstacle Character Domain is Psychology - I think Jack is the obstacle character but I am shot through with self doubt here. He prevents her throwing herself off the boat, he prevents her dying in the sea by giving her the will to live. Jack's philosophy on life is that he sees no boundaries (no class difference) between himself and Rose. His attitude makes it possible for them to have a relationship.

The Subjective Story Domain is Universe. The limitations of the ship throw them together. Provide the situation in which their relationship will develop."


SS: Very good, Kay! Although I think there's a reason you have doubt about Jack as Obstacle Character being in Psychology (which is what the Dramatica model predicts if you put the Main Character in Physics). I will clarify my viewpoint later on, but I want everyone to remember one thing that so many seem to forget so often: Just because a person takes a few actions every now and then, don't automatically tag them as a Physics character -- or even as a Do-er! All the time I watch experienced Dramatica users see a character take one physical action and say, "Oh, they're a Do-er!" But by this way of thinking, the only "Be-er" stories that can exist are ones about characters who never get out of bed!

Think about something: WHY is Rose taking all those actions (dancing in steerage, posing in the nude, jumping off the lifeboat)? If Jack had never entered the picture, would she have EVER been inclined to do such wild & crazy things? Remember when picking throughlines to think of the Main Character as her original self, unaffected by the Obstacle Character, and then look at the Obstacle Character in terms of his IMPACT on the Main Character. It's important to tell the difference between those two things...

 


Lee T. of New York writes:

 

"1.THE MIND. This is a story about people struggling for survival and the focus is on their mindful successes and failings as the encounter disaster. Subconsciously the characters are pursuing dreams. Rose is being forced into catering to Cal's dream (a phony love affair) for the purpose of solving her mother's financial problems which is her mother's dream. Jack's hopes have a chance at being realized although most people view his interest in Rose as unrealistic. But Rose is saved by Jack's hopes and his confidence. Soon worries amongst the characters begin insidiously about the planned marriage and the safety of the ship. Then the fears become conscious. Cal and Roses mother won't relent and the ship can't change course fast enough to avoid disaster.. The ship sinks and the characters show their true colors. Rose remains steadfast in her love for Jack. She changes from a freezing inertia and whistles. One boatload finally mobilizes the will to rescue survivors.

 

2. Mixture. Protagonist: Jack Goal: Memory Jack wants to be with Rose through her memory.

The explorers want to listen to her memories.

 

3. Universe: Subjective

Physics: Opposition (Jack)

Mind: Objective

Psychology: Main Character (Rose)"


SS: I was right there with you, Lee, when you were talking about Subconscious, Hopes and Dreams! But then you show the Goal as Memory. Remember that the Objective Story Concern and the Story Goal share the same dynamic. You describe pretty well the concerns of all the characters in terms of Subconscious. But then you also have to describe the Story Goal (which is slightly different, and ideally should be ONE THING) also in terms of Subconscious. We'll talk more about that later.

Okay, for the identity of the Protagonist, so far we have two votes for Rose and one vote for Jack. Getting interesting...


Prish F. from Oregon recruited her Dramatica buddy to share in this assignment. (Hmm, a buddy system sounds like a great idea! May help keep you from drowning in a sea of Dramatica concepts... [Phew! Yet another Titanic pun!])

 

"Dear Sandy,

Here are just a FEW notes on Titanic. ... Where we disagree I put our names.

Maryanne-objective story--everybody on the ship is trapped, contained to travel to America. The Girl is trapped in an arranged marriage. Man against nature story. She wants her freedom and everyone when the ship crashes wants their freedom

Prish-objective story--This is a journey to America and the ship travels in two classes that cannot come together except when Molly Brown advises the boy. Somehow the ship story also parallels this in that it breaks apart and Molly is out in the water trying to talk everyone into going back for survivors and no one listens.-- girl main character and protagonist of titanic story--considering the worth of her present life

    • girl's goal is to find a live she wants to live--prish
    • girl's goal is to have her freedom-maryanne
    • boy may be a protagonist in his own story--goal is going to America--pursuing new life
    • girl is emotion
    • boy is reason--maryanne--control logic
    • ship designer as reason--control logic--prish
    • fiancee is antagonist to the boy and girl
    • Molly archtypical guardian for boy's story-help and conscience
    • boy was guardian for girl--complex
    • the whole upper class section caught in laksidasial ways was skeptic disbelief
    • sidekick-fiancees servant , support and faith (was sounding board for antagonist) and musicians-support
    • mother is contagonist to girl
    • servant to fiancee was contagonist to boy

Emotionally and first instinct makes the story seem a universe domain. When I look at definitions in the theory book, 'love' is a mind domain. Oh, this is so difficult...

Prish F."


SS: Aha! There seems to be a split vote between Rose and Jack as the Protagonist! But isn't it interesting that you identify Cal Hockley (the fiancé) as being the Antagonist to BOTH the boy and the girl? (I'll clarify what I'm getting at later.)

I think it's notable that Maryanne observed that Objectively speaking, this is a "Man against nature story," and that all the characters "want their freedom." You didn't assign Dramatica appreciations to these concepts, but they are consistent with "Mind" (attitudes) as an OS Domain, and "Subconscious" (drives & desires) as an OS Concern. (And Prish, when you look at "love", you're looking at the Subjective Story, which resides in Universe when the OS is in Mind. So I think a combination of your first and second instincts is the ticket. [By the way, "love" can exist in ANY domain.])

Something else I want to make note of: You guys observe that Molly Brown plays Guardian to the boy, but that Jack plays Guardian to the girl. This speaks to a confusion of concepts that happens a lot in the world of Dramatica. When you have a "Change" Main Character with a "Good" outcome in her personal story, that means you have a Steadfast Obstacle Character who represents the more correct path or paradigm. Thus, it is very easy to mistake the Obstacle Character for a Guardian. SOMETIMES the OC is also the Guardian (as in "Star Wars"), but the object here is to separate the roles the characters play in the Objective side of the story from what they represent in the Subjective side--one is more "logistical" and one is more "emotional". But also we need to identify where the two viewpoints link up. In a Change/Good story, the OC will represent what the MC needs to learn, which is the element shown as MC Solution. That element should also be reflection of the OC's Objective role. (This is the "OC Crucial Element", which Dramatica 3.0 incorporates in the Build Characters window.) In this story I don't think that element is either Conscience or Help. I'll tell you later what I think it is.


Lisa F. of Connecticut has this to say:

 

"Although we said we would skip discussing the bookend storyform I have a few things to say about it anyway. Mainly that I went into the film a little skeptical about there being much value to a "framing" story. I mean, here's this true event--the sinking of the unsinkable ship--which already is a perfect example of the classical notion of hubris, so why clutter it up with extra storylines? And the whole idea of using a framing story, which in medieval romance terms would be called a "conceit," can be a very old-fashioned, hackneyed, and dated approach to narration.

It doesn't come across that way in "Titanic." For one thing, the story of Brock, the present-day treasure hunter whose attitude is challenged by "old Rose," very cleverly makes it possible to tell the recollection part of the story without a lot of pauses to explain why and how the ship sank. Everybody gets the little lesson in the mechanics of the sinking when Rose gets shown the computer simulation.

The bookend storyform links to the main story both structurally (failure/good) and thematically (value vs. worth and probably also knowledge vs. thought) and is in large part responsible for the mostly optimistic feeling of the ending. (A pretty good trick for a movie in which a thousand people drown...) When we see old Rose surrounded by her framed photos--Rose riding horses, Rose flying airplanes, Rose with lots of people, Rose with her children--we know that she really did go on to LIVE.

Enough on that then. Here's my take on the 12 essential questions:

Character dynamics:

Change/Start/Do-er/Female

Plot dynamics:

Decision/Optionlock/Failure/Good

Theme Dynamics:

Mind/Preconscious/Value/Unproven

The objective story throughline for Titanic IS in Mind--there are good arguments for Physics but mind is better/more interesting. The fatal attitude (keeping in mind the failure outcome) could be phrased as being that the ship cannot sink, but I think it is broader than that, more like that the value/worth of something can be determined by external factors like size or expense or that it is possible to "judge a book by its cover." The Titanic was the biggest and most expensive, but that it was unsinkable was unproven, untested. This point gets doubled in the way the characters are portrayed--the most privileged do not necessarily prove themselves to be the most honorable or good.

The subjective story is in Universe, not a hard stretch when we have a rich girl/poor boy love story and two characters in the same boat (literally) once disaster strikes.

The MC is in Physics: though rather unpracticed at Doing, it is Rose's real nature. Rose's choice of a suicide attempt (as opposed to attempting to manipulate her mother) shows this early on. She gets better at doing as things move along (the girl we meet at the beginning couldn't have chopped Jack's handcuffs off with the ax).

The OC--Jack--is in Psychology--he's a Be-er, playing a series of roles in his life, the romantic artist, the free spirit, the appropriate dinner guest....He becomes quite steadfast in his role as Rose's lover-savior, though.

The archetypal characters are a little hard to assign--there are so many characters. Who, for example, is the antagonist? The steamship company, distilled in the person of Ismay, urging the captain to go too fast? Or the same steamship company as the entity that puts too-few lifeboats on board because "they made the deck look too cluttered?" The same steamship company that embodies all the wrongheaded ideas about class and privilege? This works pretty well for the big picture. James Cameron has said in interviews that he viewed the ship as a microcosm of world society, with the steerage class representing the undeveloped nations and the upper crust being the more privileged, progress oriented countries....

But, back to archetypes: The nasty fiance and his excessively nasty manservant make a good antagonist/contagonist team in the subjective story--but what are they doing carrying out objective roles in the subjective story? A kind of doubling goes on because the scale is so large. There are two guardians: The unsinkable Molly Brown acts as Jack's guardian/fairy godmother in the Cinderella/Romeo & Juliet part of the story and later is the conscience of the objective story when she urges the lifeboats to turn around. Jack himself becomes Rose's guardian, saving her, as old Rose says, "in every possible way."

What else? Some of the appreciations are a little hard to find good illustrations for. Cameron has to be very economical with the subjective story to fit in the large-scale action of the objective. With the latter he's a photo-realist and with the former he's an impressionist, giving us just enough to "connect the dots." So, the stifling of Rose's spirit gets drawn swiftly, with her mother pulling her corset tight, and then tighter. We're supposed to suspend disbelief for the things that are a little hard to swallow--like her distress at seeing the small girl being strictly schooled in table manners, so like herself. This is poignant, but is this enough to justify her impulsive sprint down the deck to the suicide gesture at the rail?

One more sour note: The dialogue isn't all that memorable (yes, I agree, Sandy, that it is better than the usual stuff in big-budget disaster films). However, it is mostly plausible. I liked the fact that Rose doesn't know quite what to say to Jack when he speaks very plainly to her. Her thin excuse for remaining to talk with him and view his sketches was well done. But earlier when Jack says he'll jump in after Rose and she says, "The fall alone would kill you"--it IS a too-strong echo of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and their presence isn't wanted in this story.

But that aside, I think do the visual storytelling is superb. It carries all sorts of thematic freight. There's the lovely point-counterpoint between the overscaled technology seen in the engine room and the work of human hands (Cameron's own hands) sketching Rose, or Rose's own hand smearing the steam on the automobile window as she and Jack make love. That small human hand against the watery glass is a slick forewarning, too....

I could go on, but this is probably more than enough for my part of the discussion!

As ever,

Lisa"


SS: Thanks, Lisa, very well presented. Although you make some points that I don't completely agree with, you support them with strong arguments.

Some comments I've already made are also applicable here (Jack as Guardian, etc.), but I do want to bring up the Do-er/Be-er issue again. Something you wrote is very illuminating: "Though rather unpracticed at Doing, it is Rose's real nature." You are absolutely right. No one would argue that Rose has an indomitable spirit that is just aching to burst forth. Problem is, she was raised to be a passive, submissive woman. She was never given the tools to just go out and make things happen to her heart's content -- not until she falls under Jack's influence. It is my contention therefore that ROSE IS A DO-ER IN A BE-ER'S BODY. What does that portend storyform-wise? The Dramatica storyform deals with the story's ARGUMENT, which is an assertion that "such-n-such is a better path to follow than such-n-such." My belief is, that FOR THE SAKE OF THE STORY'S ARGUMENT, Rose ought to be tagged a Be-er.

Let me bring up more of what you wrote, Lisa, to support my argument: "Rose's choice of a suicide attempt (as opposed to attempting to manipulate her mother) shows this early on." But what is a suicide attempt other than a manipulation? When Rose runs across the deck and threatens to throw herself overboard, how is she affecting the external, physical environment? She is not--she is affecting the internal environment of attitudes and manners of thinking. Suicide threats are a cry for help, a manipulation -- and in what class do manipulators belong? In Psychology. I also need to point out that Psychology characters not only manipulate others, but allow themselves to be manipulated. Rose clearly lets her mother and her fiancé mess with her mind -- in the beginning, that is, before Jack comes along and helps to release the Do-er spirit within. You continue to write: "She gets better at doing as things move along (the girl we meet at the beginning couldn't have chopped Jack's handcuffs off with the ax)." Again, what is the nature of the story's argument? The argument made is that Rose needs to stop involving herself with psychological manipulations and learn, from Jack's influence, to take more direct action in her external environment in order to find happiness.

Let me refer back to something Marios said above: "At the party in the lower decks, when she tells Jack she can't dance, Jack tells her 'don't think'."

 


 

That right there covers one of the major points I wanted to address regarding the storyform for "Titanic". Before I go further with my own analysis, let me sum up what everybody thought.

1. The Objective Story Domain & Goal: Everyone pretty much agrees the Objective Story resides in Mind. As for Story Goal/OS Concern, the votes are split this way:

Preconscious -- 2

Subconscious -- 2 1/2

Memory -- 1/2

 

2. Objective Characters: For Protagonist, the votes weigh most heavily for Rose, but it is impossible to deny that Jack seems to carry a very strong Protagonist energy himself.

As for the other Objective Characters, here is the compilation of your assignments:

Antagonist (archetypal): Rose's Mother; Cal Hockley (2); Ismay/Steamship Co.

Guardian (archetypal): Thomas Andrews; Molly Brown (2); Jack (2)

Contagonist (archetypal): Mother; Lovejoy (2)

Contagonist (complex)--

Temptation: Cal

Hinder: Lovejoy

Emotion (archetypal): Rose

Reason (archetypal): Jack; Andrews

Reason (complex)--

Logic:

Control: Cal

Sidekick (archetypal): Lovejoy

Sidekick (complex)--

Faith:

Support: Molly Brown; Musicians

Skeptic (complex)--

Disbelief: Whole Upper Class

Oppose: Mother

These are all very good assignments, and I agree with most of them. As I stated before, this is not the easiest group of characters to break down and sort out, there being so many hand-offs and overlaps. I'll render my own opinions later on.

I also want to recount how you all stated the Protagonist's goal:

"Her goal is to break free from the enslavement and conditioning of her family and class."

"Rose's desire [is] to break free of her restrictions."

"Jack wants to be with Rose through her memory."

"Girl's goal is to find a life she wants to live."

"Girl's goal is to have her freedom."

"Boy's goal is going to America--pursuing new life."

It's not hard to see the commonalities here. These are all accurate statements of the Protagonist's goal, and I will attempt later to sum them up in a way that's meaningful to the story's argument.

3. Storyform: First of all, I think there's no argument that Rose is the Main Character and Jack is the Obstacle Character. Beyond that, here are the votes for Main Character Domain:

Physics: 2

Psychology: 2

Aha! Guess I'll have to break the tie!

Only one of you got specific enough to identify an OS Problem -- Lisa, who argues for "Unproven". As for Thematic Ranges, Lisa argues for "Value vs. Worth", while Lee argues for "Dream vs. Hope".

Allll-righty then!!! Now for MY take on the whole thing -- drumroll, please. First, all the arguments you guys made for an Objective Story Domain of Mind are sound ones, so we're all in agreement there. Now, as for Objective Story Concern & Story Goal, I want to refer just above to the statements of the Protagonist's goal, which is a reflection of the broader Objective Story Concern. What is the story all about? Freedom...and life. I think to be more specific, Rose and Jack are seeking the feeling of EXHILARATION that a life of freedom brings ("I'm flying!"). What are all the other characters going after? Cal Hockley is seeking the status of being wed to a beautiful British babe. Rose's mother is seeking the financial status and security that this marriage would bring. Ismay, the head of the White Star line, wants to arrive in America with a big hurrah by setting all sorts of speed records. Andrews, the ship's designer, is not so much after status as he is a sense of pride and accomplishment. And to everyone else on the ship, upper class and steerage alike, America in 1912 was still seen as the "New World", rife with opportunities and possibilities. Everyone--and I mean, EVERYONE in this story--is concerned with feeling on top of the world, whether that takes the form of status, freedom, accomplishment, whatever. What storyform dynamic does that speak to? "Basic drives and desires"--the Subconscious--sums this up perfectly. Preconscious, Conscious and Memory all play a role, but the Subconscious is the seed that brings this story to life. (For those who voted for Preconscious, if it's any consolation, Preconscious shows up as "Stipulation" or "Benchmark" in my storyform.)

Okay, let's get back to Protagonist. Who would that be? What I've been getting at all this time is that, structurally speaking, I think Rose and Jack are co-Protagonists. In fact, I believe that they split the function almost evenly, Rose falling mostly under "Consider" and Jack falling mainly under "Pursue". Look at what Rose deals with: She is constantly considering her situation and her options, and has a very hard time making up her mind (look how much time she spends thinking before she runs to suicide; look how long it takes her to consider jumping off the lifeboat before she actually does it; etc.). Jack never wastes a moment in grabbing his ticket and running for the ship, then perching himself on the bow and declaring himself king of the world, or in pursuing any other course of action. This is because Jack is mainly external in his approach to problems, and Rose is mainly internal. This is consistent with my earlier assertion that Rose is a Be-er while Jack impacts the world around him in terms of a Do-er.

Where do the other Objective Character functions reside? Well, I believe Rose and Jack split another archetype: Emotion. First, Jack clearly represents Uncontrolled in the Objective Story--anyone on that boat, especially on the upper decks, would agree this guy lacks restraint (he teaches Rose to spit, for God's sake). But the element of Feeling most profoundly resides with Rose, because so much of what goes on--even in the Objective Story--revolves around Rose's feelings, and how sensitive or insensitive people are toward them. Plus, the "Heart of the Ocean" necklace is definitely a Feeling symbol, and it is primarily associated with Rose.

Now let's talk about the Antagonist. It was Prish and Maryanne who observed that Cal Hockley is the Antagonist to both Jack and Rose. To put it in more specific terms, Cal plays "Reconsider" to Rose's "Consider", and plays "Avoid" (or "Prevent") to Jack's "Pursue". So Cal is an archetypal Antagonist...sort of. Whether he's playing the internal side of his role or the external depends on whom he's facing. Look at how he's constantly trying to get into Rose's head and make her reconsider any considerations she may have about not marrying him. But when he deals with Jack, he handcuffs him, pulls a gun, etc., all physical actions in response to Jack's own physicality.

I also believe Cal similarly embodies the role of Reason -- he employs "Logic" against Rose's "Feeling", and tries to assert "Control" over Rose and everyone else he can, in contrast to Jack's "Uncontrolled" nature.

Let me go ahead and spell out how I align the Objective Character elements. I reiterate that such decisions are not clear-cut in this movie, so I'm making guesstimates as to which character I believe MOST represents each element in the Objective throughline:

Protagonist--

Consider: Rose

Pursue: Jack

Antagonist (Reconsider/Prevent): Cal Hockley

Guardian (Conscience/Help): Molly Brown

Contagonist--

Temptation: Mr. Ismay (he "tempts" the captain to run at unsafe speeds)

Hinder: Lovejoy

Emotion--

Feeling: Rose

Uncontrolled: Jack

Reason (Logic/Control): Cal Hockley

Sidekick--

Faith: Mr. Andrews (the ship's designer)

Support: Jack's Immigrant Friends

Skeptic--

Disbelief: Rose*

Oppose: Rose's Mother

*I may be going out on a limb here, but it seems to me that Rose primarily embodies the Voice of Skepticism (in an internal sense) when it comes to all the haughty claims about the Titanic and her importance and imperviousness.

Okay, now let's talk about specific storyform points. To start with Resolve, I think there's no argument that Rose is Change and Jack is Steadfast in his impact upon her. As for MC Approach, I've already expressed my opinion that Rose should be considered a Be-er. I agree with Lisa that her Mental Sex is Female, in that she's more attuned to considerations of balances and influences rather than causes and effects (note her fascination with Picasso).

As for MC Growth (which was called "MC Direction" in pre-3.0 versions of Dramatica), does Rose need to "Stop" something or "Start" something? Well, arguably she needs to "Stop" being controlled and manipulated by others so she can "Start" living her heart's desire. But which one has a greater emphasis in this story? I think the former does, "Stop". Another way to look at it is, does she have a chip on her shoulder or a hole in her heart? I think "chip on the shoulder" is more descriptive of her, so I have to go with "Stop" (the fact that she feels so terrible when she first steps onto the boat supports this). This is consistent with my choices of "Mind" for OS Domain and "Be-er" for MC Approach.

Let me skip Plot Dynamics for now and jump straight to structural choices. We all agree on an OS Domain of Mind, and I've asserted that the OS Concern is The Subconscious. Then for a Thematic Range (or "Issue" in 3.0), we have the choices of Hope, Dream, Closure and Denial. Lee argues that the Range is Dream vs. Hope, but I would argue that it's the other way around (Hope vs. Dream). Hope is the projection of "a desired future if things go as expected." Dream is the speculation of "a desired future that requires unexpected developments." Already these dynamics feel right for "Titanic"! But I think the thematic exploration here is centered on the hopes for things to go as expected (the boat will dock, the kids'll get married, Mom'll be set for life, yadda yadda yadda) and how valuable such hopes are, as compared to holding out the dream that life could be better but for something unexpected to happen (a chance meeting with a rogue artist, for example, or a rogue iceberg that might change everyone's life). In the end, this story proves that Hope is an inferior value to Dream. (Note: Lee, in your paragraph arguing for Dream vs. Hope, if you would switch the words "hopes" and "dreams" around, I think you'll find it makes more sense.)

Selecting "Hope" as the OS Issue, we are now down to Logic, Feeling, Control and Uncontrolled as the OS Problem. Here's where we get into the nitty-gritty. Why is there a problem in this story? On the surface, because of man's arrogance that he believes he's conquered nature. But it's not just about the reckless belief that they've built an unsinkable ship. (This is where I truly believe that Cameron's script is not just structurally sound, but rather brilliant.) The problem is two-fold: Not only does society believe it can control the elements, but that it can control and contain a free spirit. Therefore I would word the underlying problem of the story as "a belief that man (or society) can control the inherently uncontrollable." So my choice for OS Problem is Control.

Now a Change Main Character will always share the same Problem as the Objective Story. How is Rose's Problem in the area of Control? Simply, that she allows herself to be controlled by her upbringing, by societal expectations, by her mother and by her fiancé, even though she hates it. She just doesn't have the tools to break free of her chains...until Jack comes along. Even Gloria Stuart's voice-over at the beginning of the 1912 storyline tells how she felt the Titanic was a prison for her, while to everyone else it represented freedom.

As the story progresses, Rose learns that she can only find happiness and life by adopting Jack's paradigm of Uncontrolled. This is illustrated by her swimming off her protective board (after allowing herself to break free even of Jack) and blowing the whistle without restraint. Her subsequent refusal to show herself to Cal is an illustration that she chooses to "Stop" the "Control".

(Earlier I brought up the "Obstacle Character Crucial Element", which my storyform predicts is Uncontrolled, which is consistent with my placement of Jack under that Objective Character element. However, my "Main Character Crucial Element" comes up as Control, and yet I've placed Cal Hockley under Control in the Objective Story. This is tricky because "Control" can be seen in two ways: he who controls and she who allows herself to be controlled. To remain true to Dramatica and to my storyform, it might be more appropriate to assign Control to Rose. I think either choice can be made, as long as we're mindful of the other. But one of the reasons I put Cal under Control is that he specifically espouses the belief that "God himself could not sink this ship.")

Picking Control as OS Problem gives us an OS Focus of Logic with a Direction of Feeling. The "Logic" of the class system appears as a symptom of the true problem, and those who are inclined to treat that symptom do so with Feeling (the immigrants, Molly Brown, Rose, Jack, etc.). Also, the flawed logic of having two few lifeboats is glossed over by arguing the feeling of an unobstructed view. The ship's Captain tries to argue the logic of not going full steam ahead, but Ismay argues about what a heroic feeling they'll have when they arrive in America early. Etc., etc.

Also, for Main Character we get a Focus of Conscience and a Direction of Temptation. Now doesn't that speak for itself?

Okay, let me go back now to the four Plot Dynamics in the middle of the 12 Essential Questions. For Story Driver (previously known as "Story Work"), I have to disagree with Lisa and go with Action. The precipitous events in this story are things that just happen, the most notable one being the collision with the iceberg. The action of Jack winning the ticket in a poker game, and the literal action of the boat undocking, set the story into motion (prior decisions that led to these actions are not part of the story). The next precipitous event is the chance encounter between Jack and Rose. Then there's the iceberg. Then the final action that "bookends" the story is Rose's death and her reunion with Jack in the afterlife. (Note: I mentioned upfront that the mini-story involving Brock and the elderly Rose in the present time is a separate storyform. However, the final afterlife scene with Kate Winslet belongs with the 1912 storyform.)

My storyform predicts that the Objective Story unfolds like this: Memory -> Subconscious -> Preconscious -> Conscious. If you look at this act order in terms of the above precipitous Actions, you'll see it makes complete sense. (Memory is addressed a lot in the first act in different forms, but in particular I interpret the boat's undocking as the "forgetting" of the Old World by its passengers in favor of the New World. When Jack and Rose encounter each other, basic drives and desires among all the characters come strongly into play [Subconscious]. When the iceberg hits, panic begins to ensue [Preconscious]. And finally, people have to make Conscious choices about life and death, and Rose in particular makes the Conscious choice to snub Cal.)

For Story Limit, there is no deadline for the characters to find ways to feel on top of the world and experience the exhilaration of life (at least, not that they're aware of). It's a matter of options: How many ways can Jack show Rose what it's like to feel free? How many ways can Cal convince Rose to remain true to him? How many ways can Ismay and Andrews convince the world that the Titanic is the ultimate luxury ship? Etc., etc.

Skipping to MC Judgment, it's pretty obvious the Main Character's personal resolution is Good. This is illustrated in the photos on Gloria Stuart's nightstand of Kate Winslet on a horse in Santa Monica, posing as a pilot by a plane, etc. (Again, anything involving the young Rose--Kate Winslet--belongs with the 1912 storyform.) Obviously she learned what she needed to from Jack and found happiness.

Now back to Story Outcome. Here is where you all will probably be convinced that I'm totally off my rocker. After all, the ship sinks and most of the people die a horrible, freezing death, so it seems pretty gosh-darn obvious the Outcome is Failure, right? Well, let me take you through a certain thinking process. Most of you will recall that in my responses to your homework and your questions, I have always emphasized that the Story Goal should be worded from the point of view of the Protagonist. And when the Protagonist wins and the Antagonist loses, the Outcome is Success. Conversely, if the Antagonist wins, it's a Failure. I've identified the Antagonist as Cal Hockley. Even though he tells Jack that he "always wins," in this case he obviously doesn't. But do the Protagonists win? I've identified Rose and Jack as co-Protagonists, but let's disregard Rose right now to avoid mixing up her Main Character outcome with her Protagonist outcome. That leaves it up to Jack to determine the Story Outcome. He dies. BUT, before he does, he has won the heart of Rose for eternity. The Goal of the Objective Story is the Subconscious, to fulfill basic drives and desires. Our Protagonists do that, in spite of the tragedy, and in spite of the fact that they're separated for over 80 years. Therefore I'm calling the Story Outcome a Success.

To put my kooky theory to the test, I went into Dramatica and did a storyform where I plugged in all my choices EXCEPT Success or Failure. I then went into the appreciations that were left undetermined--such as Catalysts, Unique Abilities, Benchmarks, etc.--to select the better of the remaining choices in each, to see what this storyforming pathway would predict for Outcome. For Objective Story Catalyst, I had a choice of Denial or Dream. "Dream" didn't feel right, but "Denial" does. The OS Catalyst is the "accelerator" of the story, and we see a literal acceleration of the ship into icy waters, which happens because of Ismay's "refusal to let go" of his reckless egotism, and a general denial of the fact that it simply isn't safe and there's no such thing as unsinkable. Also, Cal Hockley steps up his efforts to foil Jack and Rose's relationship because of his "refusal to let go" of his plans to marry Rose--he will not be denied (I believe he actually says that). There are numerous other examples.

For Main Character Unique Ability, I had to choose between Obligation and Responsibility. "Responsibility" is already the MC Issue (or MC Range), but it doesn't resonate as her Unique Ability. What gets her on the ship in the first place? Her obligation to her mother and to Cal. But it is her ability to RELEASE herself of those obligations that allows her to move on with her life. Choosing Obligation here predicts that she is being held down by a Critical Flaw of Approach. Interesting, isn't it, that this comes up after I've made such a strong point that the story's argument revolves around Rose's need to get out of her Be-er mode and adopt more of a Do-er mode? This addresses the appreciation of "MC Approach", which links in no uncertain terms to her Critical Flaw.

Also, under MC Benchmark (or MC Stipulation), I selected "Being" rather than "Conceiving", because you can measure the progress of her personal throughline by the degree to which she is less and less playing the role society has dictated for her. Back to the Objective Story, the Benchmark there is either "Preconscious" or "Conscious". About half of you felt Preconscious was the OS Concern, but since I nixed that, it seems like it should go SOMEWHERE -- like OS Benchmark (which also puts in under Story Requirement). In addition, an Obstacle Character Unique Ability of "Attitude" feels a lot more obvious than "Morality"; for SS Catalyst, "Preconception" increases conflict in the Subjective Story more than "Choice" does; etc.

In almost every case where I had a choice between dynamics that predict "Success" and those that predict "Failure", while sometimes I could make reasonable arguments for the "Failure" dynamics, I could make even better ones for the "Success" dynamics. Therefore Dramatica itself confirms my process of thinking--wording the Story Goal in terms of the Protagonist(s) and determining the Outcome from that--that leads to the conclusion that "Titanic" is a "Success" story. Like I said earlier, I must be off my rocker.

For your convenience (and to make this file even longer than it already is), the following is the complete Story Engine Settings output for my storyform:


STORY ENGINE SETTINGS: "TITANIC"

CHARACTER DYNAMICS:

MC RESOLVE: Change

MC GROWTH: Stop

MC APPROACH: Be-er

MC MENTAL SEX: Female

OC RESOLVE: Steadfast

PLOT DYNAMICS:

DRIVER: Action

LIMIT: Optionlock

OUTCOME: Success

JUDGMENT: Good

 

OBJECTIVE STORY

(Everyone on the Titanic)

DOMAIN: Mind

CONCERN: The Subconscious

ISSUE: Hope vs. Dream

PROBLEM: Control

SOLUTION: Uncontrolled

FOCUS: Logic

DIRECTION: Feeling

CATALYST: Denial

INHIBITOR: Openness

BENCHMARK: The Preconscious

SIGNPOST 1: Memory

SIGNPOST 2: The Subconscious

SIGNPOST 3: The Preconscious

SIGNPOST 4: The Conscious

 

MAIN CHARACTER

(Rose)

DOMAIN: Psychology

CONCERN: Becoming

ISSUE: Responsibility vs. Commitment

PROBLEM: Control

SOLUTION: Uncontrolled

FOCUS: Conscience

DIRECTION: Temptation

UNIQUE ABILITY: Obligation

CRITICAL FLAW: Approach

BENCHMARK: Being

SIGNPOST 1: Conceptualizing

SIGNPOST 2: Being

SIGNPOST 3: Becoming

SIGNPOST 4: Conceiving

 

OBSTACLE CHARACTER

(Jack)

DOMAIN: Physics

CONCERN: Obtaining

ISSUE: Morality vs. Self Interest

PROBLEM: Consider

SOLUTION: Reconsider

FOCUS: Logic

DIRECTION: Feeling

UNIQUE ABILITY: Attitude

CRITICAL FLAW: Rationalization

BENCHMARK: Doing

SIGNPOST 1: Understanding

SIGNPOST 2: Doing

SIGNPOST 3: Obtaining

SIGNPOST 4: Learning

 

SUBJECTIVE STORY

(Rose & Jack Love Story)

DOMAIN: Universe

CONCERN: The Future

ISSUE: Delay vs. Choice

PROBLEM: Conscience

SOLUTION: Temptation

FOCUS: Logic

DIRECTION: Feeling

CATALYST: Preconception

INHIBITOR: Closure

BENCHMARK: Progress

SIGNPOST 1: The Present

SIGNPOST 2: The Past

SIGNPOST 3: Progress

SIGNPOST 4: The Future

 

ADDITIONAL STORY APPRECIATIONS

GOAL: The Subconscious

CONSEQUENCE: The Future

COST: Obtaining

DIVIDEND: Becoming

REQUIREMENT: The Preconscious

PREREQUISITE: Progress

PRECONDITION: Doing

FOREWARNINGS: Being

 

So ... have I convinced anyone of anything?

Sandy


 

 

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Based on theories and materials developed by Melanie Anne Phillips and Chris Huntley
Dramatica is a registered trademark of Screenplay Systems Incorporated. Patent #5,734,916; #6,105,046